Starfish Songwriters

The Sandbox => MP3 songs for Review/Critique => Topic started by: Couchgrouch on June 03, 2026, 02:50:45 pm


Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: LAWHON on June 04, 2026, 04:48:30 pm
There are a lot of people out there with little aptitude for writing, yet they are producing galaxies of "AI slop."
And there are clearly some downsides to AI slop.

But in this case, a person who writes well, wrote his own lyrics, was able to use AI to make a good artistic endeavor even better, as a solo effort, with a little bit of time and money invested.

In spite of all the AI slop that is out there, that's a very worthwhile outcome obtained by one lyricist using an extraordinary tool.

It's a good thing.
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: Couchgrouch on June 04, 2026, 04:22:54 pm
I didn't understand his attitude at all.

But, to each his own...
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: redwriter1 on June 04, 2026, 04:02:17 pm
This person has requested to be removed from the site, so I am granting his wish.

I was going to ban him for 5 days, but apparently that didn't work.

Carry on everyone.
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: guest42 on June 04, 2026, 01:24:09 pm
Whatever have fun with robots and fairytales .
Now you pissed me off you prick, on a personal  attack
**** sellout on robots
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: Couchgrouch on June 04, 2026, 12:57:41 pm
I took credit for the arrangement and lyric. I have never taken credit for anything I haven't done in a song.

Recording your own bad song is nothing to be proud of.

I wasn't grouchy. You came on this topic and repeatedly said what I had done was for laughs and hilarious. What you got was a firm, honest reaction.

And the only people who claim Christianity is based on a fairy tale are the ignorant and willfully ignorant.

If you're going to claim that, at least be better at what you do and give your point of view some credibility, even if it's wrong.
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: guest42 on June 04, 2026, 12:31:32 pm
Well they don't call you couch grouch for nothing . So you're saying I'm talentless hack . At least I record in studios sing them and not rely on Robots and take all the credit. I've never said I don't like Christians , its just fairly tales are funny to me like robots 
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: guest42 on June 04, 2026, 12:25:48 pm
I didn't say your song was funny . Suno is . Thats ridiculous I don't like Christians or Suno .
You're a picture on a screen . The Hitler Jesus song is basically a joke . like everything in life 
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: redwriter1 on June 04, 2026, 11:59:04 am
Kay-lynn, I'm a little reluctant to say how I got those arrangements, haha.

Let me think it over... 😀


It's ok, you're allowed to have your secret sauce, it's just very impressive!
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: Couchgrouch on June 04, 2026, 11:57:25 am
Kay-lynn, I'm a little reluctant to say how I got those arrangements, haha.

Let me think it over... 😀
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: redwriter1 on June 04, 2026, 10:37:56 am
You guys are hilarious . You spend 10 dollars a month for 8 million songs a month. The robots are so over worked , they need 5000 gallons of oil to keep up .



Please refrain from making general statements in a songwriting thread. We are NOT going to have debates here about AI. None, Zero. I've already stated that in the simple rules.

ok? Thanks
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: redwriter1 on June 04, 2026, 10:20:25 am
Thanks, folks.

John, many of my new demos are AI. It should say that on SC.

I can't afford to demo a McTruck song in Nashville, let alone songs like this.

I love arranging and Suno let's me indulge that.



How in the heck do you get those great horns and vocals??? Wow............. I need a Suno tutorial from you!

You're one class act............ love the song.  I wouldn't call it 'country" though, would you?
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: Couchgrouch on June 04, 2026, 10:02:07 am
Thanks, John. 😀

I didn't want to get involved in a controversy!
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: Couchgrouch on June 04, 2026, 10:00:01 am
I'm trying to be diplomatic here. Elvis, what's hilarious about Chinatown?

Your Hitler "song" is the joke. That kinda stuff was edgy in the 60s when Dylan, The Stones and Jim Morrison were doing it. But those guys were great writers.

You're not.

Now it just comes off as a guy with no talent who's trying to be "rebellious".

I get it. You don't like Suno, or Christians.

If you're not going to change your tired shtick, at least improve it.

And do it somewhere else.
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: Tex on June 04, 2026, 09:26:27 am
Cindy was on JPF about two years back...
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: guest42 on June 04, 2026, 09:14:10 am
You guys are hilarious . You spend 10 dollars a month for 8 million songs a month. The robots are so over worked , they need 5000 gallons of oil to keep up .
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: John Voorpostel on June 04, 2026, 08:57:42 am
Couch you pay for SUNO?

Makes sense...as you then own what you produce...

I have to speak to Robert about that now that I have actually checked SUNO out...

We have 3 video collabs that use SUNO ...I've just credited him and SUNO...

Terms do say "commercial use" and so far it is only for the somple joy of creating music and the video

But I sent "Galway's Sons" link to the City of Galway to see where it may land
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: John Voorpostel on June 04, 2026, 08:51:00 am
BTW Couch, that song of yours that Craig Bickhart cut is great played really loud....

Roll down the window, roll along, think Arizona ....
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: Couchgrouch on June 04, 2026, 08:50:41 am
Suno didn't, and couldn't, write the lyric. That took decades of listening to everything from pre-war Delta Blues to Rossini. Not to mention the 1000s of dollars to buy it.

And the arrangement.
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: John Voorpostel on June 04, 2026, 08:49:04 am
Have not seen Cindy for a number of years Couch. Don't think she posts anywhere anymore.

Just googled her and she is still living where she was....and her only music references are dated

Her Soundclick picture shows her sipping a Margarita at Pineyfest and of all things, that's me next to her...not fully revealed...but me.
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: guest42 on June 04, 2026, 08:44:25 am
So now everything Nashville is doing is crap now ? I've kinda heard they don't make music like they used to lot.
Happens all the time . You're not doing it for laughs ? You spent one penny for a radio ready song . That in it self is pretty funny. They've been bitching country music is not country music since George Strait and Alan Jackson cried hey what about us ? What about you ? Isn't 500 million enough for you guys ? ha ha ha , I guess not . Damn pop country . Funny stuff .
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: Couchgrouch on June 04, 2026, 08:05:55 am
I'm not doing it for laughs. And people seem to like the results.

As for Sony staff writers, I only listen to modern country in Walmart, when I'm forced to. It's hard to believe just how bad those songs are.

I'm more than happy with the two I've posted here, as compared to the puerile stuff coming out of Nashville.
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: guest42 on June 03, 2026, 11:37:24 pm
Ps...whatever happened to Tink...?


Well no sense in wasting $600.00 for a demo . I think that road is pretty much closed , unless you're a Sony Staff Writer . So the AI thing is the way to go , for a few laughs .
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: Couchgrouch on June 03, 2026, 09:33:39 pm
Ps...whatever happened to Tink...?
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: Couchgrouch on June 03, 2026, 06:20:24 pm
Thanks, folks.

John, many of my new demos are AI. It should say that on SC.

I can't afford to demo a McTruck song in Nashville, let alone songs like this.

I love arranging and Suno let's me indulge that.
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: LAWHON on June 03, 2026, 05:44:07 pm
Very cohesive and linear story line. Interesting and enjoyable.

"swirling colors through the glass" put me in your scene. Cool line.

Lots of enjoyable rhymes throughout.

Nicely done.


While on your SC page I noticed,
"The Best Lies Are Almost True."

When I read that title, I felt envy. Great title.
Enjoyed the listen also.
Title: Re: Chinatown
Post by: John Voorpostel on June 03, 2026, 05:30:26 pm
This is why I always liked to see you post Couch....what a lyrical journey this is from beginning to end.

I was writing about Cindy Miller\Tink and JPF\TWS earlier today....I realized I have been privileged to read your stuff since the late 90s.

Who is the vocalist?

Title: Chinatown
Post by: Couchgrouch on June 03, 2026, 02:50:45 pm
https://www.soundclick.com/couchgrouch