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MP3 songs for Review/Critique / Re: Rubber Band Love
« on: April 01, 2026, 11:50:46 am »
Thanks for picking this up. Bouncing along nicely. Shows your excellent flexibility as well. Like this new songwriter forum. Brilliant!
Bill

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MP3 songs for Review/Critique / Re: Kindergarten
« on: April 01, 2026, 10:52:10 am »
In summary:

I like the intro, verses,and chorus as is.
reading again this am, I don’t think the “but “ is needed.

And(something new), maybe rethink the bridge, as some 7 year olds may be headed for prison?

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MP3 songs for Review/Critique / Re: Kindergarten
« on: March 31, 2026, 06:56:58 pm »
But…you wouldn’t be in, any of this trouble
if you had just learned in kindergarten to:

Chorus

It adds somewhat additional push to the higher intellectual adult level of the verses from the child trainer rules in chorus…is it enough to bridge the leap/gap.?

Imagine this
Two people conversing. Both went to the same school as kids. One is behind bars, the other a well paid prison social worker, who talks with prisoners.

Prisoner says how did you do it, how come you know so much? Just kindergarten lessons man,that’s all. the social worker says.

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MP3 songs for Review/Critique / Re: Kindergarten
« on: March 31, 2026, 04:19:41 pm »
I like the subject of this lyric and the deep analysis.some great discussion.

Train the children. They don’t nearly understand. But good solid civilized habits learned early will kick in, with rewards later in life.

How did I fall so far said the man being lead off to prison. It’s not a rocket science lesson in living. Most folks now the lessons as well.

Hey you messed up. Remember how easy it was when you were a kid?
Kids don’t have adult problems though. They still steal candy at the corner store…old Mr jones, the blind codger, he’ll never miss a few candies,  Joey says, 15 year’s later he is lead off to jail for embessiling funds from wealthy clients saying…..they will never miss the bucks.

Good message lyric, important.
Bill


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Ideas/Quotes that want to be songs. / Re: ok I'll go first.
« on: March 31, 2026, 03:22:03 pm »
Very thought provoking..................I'm still trying to figure out what that line stood out for me too.

Is there a part of you that finds a river fearful, frightening???

I ask this because ‘the river’ might be considered to be one of the often repeatedly used metaphors in writing.

The other night, I dreamed I stood by a rushing river and I was anxious and frightened, but I did not know why.

A lot of fiction writers use rivers sometimes to create great tension, escape scenes, natural borders in war time strategies, fearfully dead of night rushing terror, etc.

And biblically, is associated with passing to next realm, floating in a death shroud downstream to nirvana.

So yeah, nice friendly little bridge be cool in escaping that! lol
Bill

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MP3 songs for Review/Critique / Re: Summer Dreams
« on: March 31, 2026, 12:47:27 pm »
Hello rpirone
I read the lyric two maybe three day ago, and thought that some fine writing,  mental note to come back to starfish, and listen!

Music sounds 70’s yeah…for some reason. I was in my 20’s in the 70’s, and remember the sad/sweetness of summer love and summer love songs. This song fits nicely…Could go nicely in a movie in that genre.

I enjoyed the listen. Took me back! Cheers.
Bill

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Lyrics for Review/Critique / Re: First post of lyric!
« on: March 30, 2026, 01:38:27 pm »
Hi Shelleyanne,
I don’t think the lyric needs to be trimmed.

But. How is the storyline resolved? Could be in movie or tv series…stay tuned for the next chapter!

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Ideas/Quotes that want to be songs. / the river not there
« on: March 30, 2026, 01:22:16 pm »
If the river is not there, but it is there
It’s in my imagination.

My thoughts were proceeding, well enough
But now they are blocked
By this force of river

Why do I care?
Because there is a colourful pavilion
Flying fabulous flags of intricate design
with interesting folk dancing and waving
On the other shore

I want to go there, in my mind
I build a bridge and proceed

lol…that was like a object writing exercise

Bill

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Lyrics for Review/Critique / Re: First post of lyric!
« on: March 30, 2026, 02:22:03 am »
Definitely a pop/country vibe I think

This is not country genre. More light pop/jazz. Another take on it, just for fun.

https://suno.com/s/NdhXfR2er30inn2s
 

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MP3 songs for Review/Critique / Re: But I Do
« on: March 27, 2026, 12:43:15 pm »
Good song! More, more!

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MP3 songs for Review/Critique / Re: Kindergarten
« on: March 27, 2026, 12:40:14 pm »
Great song! Loved it. :)  :)

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Lyrics for Review/Critique / Re: First post of lyric!
« on: March 26, 2026, 09:28:20 pm »
Go ahead with yours Kay-Lynn!! Really looking forward to hearing it. Will be very good I expect. Cheers.
Bill

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Lyrics for Review/Critique / Re: First post of lyric!
« on: March 26, 2026, 12:10:22 pm »
In the introduction section of this forum, you had mentioned, you don’t do music. Just thinking of that, I arranged your lyric into various sections verse, chorus, etc…..because it’s a starting point in composing music, the way I see it, ie verses are a mirror melody to one another. And. Music for chorus is different. And. Music for bridge is different.

I like the lyric. Conversational and interesting topic.

The structure is different. The way I tried to organize it…so many bridges!😊

See what others more knowledgeable think.
Bill

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Lyrics for Review/Critique / Re: First post of lyric!
« on: March 26, 2026, 11:55:21 am »
Please be honest  :)

But I do

V1
It’s every day
And it’s all the time
Wishing that he was mine
He’s in my heart
And he’s in my mind
Sends shivers down my spine

Chorus
He’s not the kind to stick around
He’s not the type to see things through
Can’t have him, shouldn’t want him
But I do

V2
He’s like a knock
On an open door
Don’t know what I’m waiting for
A little sweet that
I can’t ignore
I only want a little more

Chorus(modified)
He breaks a heart with every smile
Breaks every rule I ever knew
Can’t have him, shouldn’t want him
But I do
 
Bridge 1
Do I want to feel the flame?
(yeah I do)
And know I’ll never be the same?
(Yeah I do)
He’s playing games and he’ll play me too…..
Can’t have him, shouldn’t want him
But I do


Bridge 2
He’s got this hard wild heart
And I’m not one for taking chances
So I run  when he advances
But he knows the truth
Can’t have him, shouldn’t want him
But I do

Bridge 3
Can’t have him, shouldn’t want him
But I do
Can’t have him, shouldn’t want him
But I sure do
Can’t have him, shouldn’t want him
Like I do

Bridge 2
He’s got this hard wild heart
And I’m not one for taking chances
So I run  when he advances
But he knows the truth
Can’t have him, shouldn’t want him
But I do

Tag
It’s every day
And it’s all the time
Wishing that he was mine.

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Introduce Yourself / billdraper-introduction
« on: March 26, 2026, 11:29:01 am »
Hello!

I’m a professional tax accountant, now retired.

You know, I always had a stereo system and a stack of songs to play, and find great relaxation, just listening and enjoying musical artists.

I’ve always had an acoustic guitar handy, to find some of those notes I heard, and eventually able to play a little myself.

Now I go hey, do a cover, or, write my own….see if I can get good. That’s it.

With time on my hands, I’ve started in on open mikes, small small audiences….and songwriting forums like this…writing a bit of my own. No pro here…haha

Anyway, looking forward to listening, reading, commenting on music and lyrics here at starfish….Cheers!
Bill

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